[LTER-im] Drupal 6 funeral and the IM site.

[Inigo San Gil]

You all seem quite confused - Please listen, this is simple:

- All I need is a copy of the database - and a copy of the files directory.

I am not asking you into any commitment.

Can you please send a copy of these resources? Who do I have to talk to 
get those?

Inigo


On 6/10/2016 9:57 AM, Corinna Gries wrote:
>
> Dear Inigo,
>
> Thank you again for offering to help with the migration of the LTER IM 
> site to Drupal 7. I apologize for jumping onto your offer a bit too 
> quickly without fully thinking it through.
>
> EDI is not well enough defined yet to simply take over the LTER IM 
> website the way we originally planned when it was NIMO. We have been 
> using this site for several purposes and with all the changes 
> currently going on these may need to be divided up into different 
> places. At yesterday’s IMexec meeting we quickly identified several of 
> those purposes (LTER IM identity, communication amongst ourselves, 
> general IM resources, etc.) and decided that this warrants some time 
> at our annual meeting in August for discussion.
>
> Until then I would like to thank NCO for hosting our website and leave 
> the decisions on security patching and upgrading any and all of the 
> LTER websites to their highly qualified judgment.
>
> Corinna
>
> *From:*im [mailto:im-bounces at lists.lternet.edu] *On Behalf Of *Inigo 
> San Gil
> *Sent:* Monday, June 06, 2016 9:20 PM
> *To:* Matt Jones
> *Cc:* all_LTER_IMs; Frank Davis
> *Subject:* Re: [LTER-im] Drupal 6 funeral and the IM site.
>
>
>
> We started a migration repository 
> <https://github.com/lter/imc-migration>, and run a deep analysis 
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ISAm8B8KTzGSTXpAWK4-0WSGjzpEsNAiDwO3SW27ts4/edit?usp=sharing> 
> of the IM site composition and structure.
>
> The only thing in our way is a snapshot of the database, and a copy of 
> the files directory. This does not take a series of meetings, 
> strategical decisions, it just takes FIVE minutes of somebody's time 
> at NCEAS.  Perhaps it would be even faster (1 minutes) to open me a 
> shell account, so I can perform those ops myself.  May be there is a 
> trust issue, who knows?
>
> I am not asking NCEAS to host a secure, more modern version of the IM 
> site - but I want to give the IMs a chance to preserve the content 
> before is too late, and content becomes locked and too costly to be 
> migrated.  It is really much more simple than all that.
>
> Inigo
>
> -- 
> Inigo San Gil
> +1 505 277 2625
> http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=foIppL4AAAAJ&hl=en
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/6/16 5:25 PM, Matt Jones wrote:
>
>     Hello IMs --
>
>     Just wanted to follow up with a few details about the web site
>     migration.  In consultation with Corinna and others at EDI
>     (formerly NIMO), and with support from James at LNO, we migrated
>     the LTER informational web sites to the NCO, and have been
>     operating them for the last several months, including handling
>     necessary security updates.  Marty met with Corinna and others
>     from EDI last week to discuss how to move the IM site (and other
>     data oriented sites) over to the EDI.  What became clear is that
>     there are still some decisions to be made as the role of the EDI
>     gets better defined with respect to LTER and other non-LTER groups
>     like OBFS and macrosystems projects.  So, for the time being, we
>     will continue to operate the web sites at NCO, at least until EDI
>     is operational; at that point, some portion of the content that
>     makes sense may be moved over to EDI or elsewhere, depending on
>     what the IM community and EDI wants to do.  So, thanks, Inigo, for
>     the offer, but at this time its probably best not to separate the
>     IM site from the other other Drupal instances at LTER that it is
>     intertwined with -- we'll get it and the other sites upgraded to
>     D7 and continue to provide access to IMs via their LDAP logins. 
>     More info as Corinna et al. get operational at EDI...
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Matt
>
>     --
>
>     Matthew B. Jones
>
>     LTER Network Communications Office
>
>     http://www.lternet.edu
>
>     Director of Informatics R&D
>
>     National Center for Ecological Analysis and Synthesis
>
>     University of California Santa Barbara
>
>     http://www.nceas.ucsb.edu/ecoinfo
>
>     Co-PI, DataONE
>
>     https://dataone.org
>
>     PI, NSF Arctic Data Center
>
>     https://arcticdata.io
>
>     On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Inigo San Gil <isangil at lternet.edu
>     <mailto:isangil at lternet.edu>> wrote:
>
>
>     IMs,
>
>     Drupal 6 (D6) End of support came in the early spring of 2016. A
>     couple of weeks ago, we attended a proper funeral, New Orleans
>     style. Very emotional event, as you can imagine.
>
>     I thought I would offer to move the IM site to a supported
>     platform (hint: the IM site runs on D6), perhaps clean it up a
>     bit, and make it mobile friendly. Not a lot of work, but it is not
>     for the faint of heart, as the site hosts over 1,000 nodes, which
>     to you it means at least 1,000 pages of content. With the
>     combinations and relationships, it makes up a wealth of information.
>
>     The information is now at some risk, when the next critical
>     vulnerability hits, we would probably scramble for a fix. Or not,
>     but it wont be as easy as it is with a supported product.  That is
>     why I offered to update the site.
>
>     James Brunt offered an out-of-date snapshot of the database, but
>     it would be really better to hit the production database, so
>     content can be migrated once and again -- there is no need for
>     downtimes, no operational disruptions.  Except, that is, the lack
>     of responsiveness.
>
>     For this I need the cooperation of the new hosts, the NCEAS.  We
>     sent them an email over 10 days ago.  I sent them a reminder 8
>     days ago.
>
>     All I need is ONE of two SIMPLE things:
>     -- Either shell access to the server hosting the IM site
>     OR
>     -- 2 files: a mysqldump file of the back end database, and the
>     "files" directory of that site.
>
>     I got one answer that asked me to wait (???) for a meeting last week.
>
>     It has been over two weeks since my initial offer.  If this is
>     going to be the MO of the NCEAS, I would suggest we host the IM
>     site ourselves (whether in our servers, or in a cloud instance).
>     Same fate with Databits.  If we insist on having NCEAS providing
>     this sort of service, you can help by reminding NCEAS about
>     turnaround times and service expectations, specially for simple
>     things that entail 5 mins of their time.
>
>     Inigo
>
>
>     -- 
>
>     Inigo San Gil
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