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<p>You all seem quite confused - Please listen, this is simple:<br>
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<p>- All I need is a copy of the database - and a copy of the files
directory. <br>
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<p>I am not asking you into any commitment. <br>
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<p>Can you please send a copy of these resources? Who do I have to
talk to get those?<br>
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<p>Inigo<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/10/2016 9:57 AM, Corinna Gries
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dear
Inigo,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thank
you again for offering to help with the migration of the
LTER IM site to Drupal 7. I apologize for jumping onto your
offer a bit too quickly without fully thinking it through. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">EDI
is not well enough defined yet to simply take over the LTER
IM website the way we originally planned when it was NIMO.
We have been using this site for several purposes and with
all the changes currently going on these may need to be
divided up into different places. At yesterday’s IMexec
meeting we quickly identified several of those purposes
(LTER IM identity, communication amongst ourselves, general
IM resources, etc.) and decided that this warrants some time
at our annual meeting in August for discussion.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Until
then I would like to thank NCO for hosting our website and
leave the decisions on security patching and upgrading any
and all of the LTER websites to their highly qualified
judgment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Corinna<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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im [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:im-bounces@lists.lternet.edu">mailto:im-bounces@lists.lternet.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Inigo San Gil<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 06, 2016 9:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Matt Jones<br>
<b>Cc:</b> all_LTER_IMs; Frank Davis<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [LTER-im] Drupal 6 funeral and the
IM site.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
We started a <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/lter/imc-migration">migration
repository</a>, and run a
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ISAm8B8KTzGSTXpAWK4-0WSGjzpEsNAiDwO3SW27ts4/edit?usp=sharing">deep
analysis</a> of the IM site composition and structure. <br>
<br>
The only thing in our way is a snapshot of the database, and
a copy of the files directory. This does not take a series
of meetings, strategical decisions, it just takes FIVE
minutes of somebody's time at NCEAS. Perhaps it would be
even faster (1 minutes) to open me a shell account, so I can
perform those ops myself. May be there is a trust issue,
who knows?<br>
<br>
I am not asking NCEAS to host a secure, more modern version
of the IM site - but I want to give the IMs a chance to
preserve the content before is too late, and content becomes
locked and too costly to be migrated. It is really much
more simple than all that.<br>
<br>
Inigo<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Inigo San Gil<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>+1 505 277 2625<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=foIppL4AAAAJ&hl=en">http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=foIppL4AAAAJ&hl=en</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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On 6/6/16 5:25 PM, Matt Jones wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hello IMs -- <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Just wanted to follow up with a few
details about the web site migration. In consultation
with Corinna and others at EDI (formerly NIMO), and with
support from James at LNO, we migrated the LTER
informational web sites to the NCO, and have been
operating them for the last several months, including
handling necessary security updates. Marty met with
Corinna and others from EDI last week to discuss how to
move the IM site (and other data oriented sites) over to
the EDI. What became clear is that there are still some
decisions to be made as the role of the EDI gets better
defined with respect to LTER and other non-LTER groups
like OBFS and macrosystems projects. So, for the time
being, we will continue to operate the web sites at NCO,
at least until EDI is operational; at that point, some
portion of the content that makes sense may be moved
over to EDI or elsewhere, depending on what the IM
community and EDI wants to do. So, thanks, Inigo, for
the offer, but at this time its probably best not to
separate the IM site from the other other Drupal
instances at LTER that it is intertwined with -- we'll
get it and the other sites upgraded to D7 and continue
to provide access to IMs via their LDAP logins. More
info as Corinna et al. get operational at EDI...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Matt<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">--<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Matthew B. Jones<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">LTER Network Communications Office <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.lternet.edu" target="_blank">http://www.lternet.edu</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Director of Informatics R&D<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">National Center for Ecological
Analysis and Synthesis<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">University of California Santa
Barbara<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.nceas.ucsb.edu/ecoinfo"
target="_blank">http://www.nceas.ucsb.edu/ecoinfo</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Co-PI, DataONE<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://dataone.org" target="_blank">https://dataone.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">PI, NSF Arctic Data Center<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://arcticdata.io" target="_blank">https://arcticdata.io</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Inigo
San Gil <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:isangil@lternet.edu" target="_blank">isangil@lternet.edu</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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IMs,<br>
<br>
Drupal 6 (D6) End of support came in the early spring of
2016. A couple of weeks ago, we attended a proper
funeral, New Orleans style. Very emotional event, as you
can imagine.<br>
<br>
I thought I would offer to move the IM site to a
supported platform (hint: the IM site runs on D6),
perhaps clean it up a bit, and make it mobile friendly.
Not a lot of work, but it is not for the faint of heart,
as the site hosts over 1,000 nodes, which to you it
means at least 1,000 pages of content. With the
combinations and relationships, it makes up a wealth of
information.<br>
<br>
The information is now at some risk, when the next
critical vulnerability hits, we would probably scramble
for a fix. Or not, but it wont be as easy as it is with
a supported product. That is why I offered to update
the site.<br>
<br>
James Brunt offered an out-of-date snapshot of the
database, but it would be really better to hit the
production database, so content can be migrated once and
again -- there is no need for downtimes, no operational
disruptions. Except, that is, the lack of
responsiveness.<br>
<br>
For this I need the cooperation of the new hosts, the
NCEAS. We sent them an email over 10 days ago. I sent
them a reminder 8 days ago.<br>
<br>
All I need is ONE of two SIMPLE things:<br>
-- Either shell access to the server hosting the IM site<br>
OR<br>
-- 2 files: a mysqldump file of the back end database,
and the "files" directory of that site.<br>
<br>
I got one answer that asked me to wait (???) for a
meeting last week.<br>
<br>
It has been over two weeks since my initial offer. If
this is going to be the MO of the NCEAS, I would suggest
we host the IM site ourselves (whether in our servers,
or in a cloud instance). Same fate with Databits. If we
insist on having NCEAS providing this sort of service,
you can help by reminding NCEAS about turnaround times
and service expectations, specially for simple things
that entail 5 mins of their time.<span
style="color:#888888"><br>
<br>
<span class="hoenzb">Inigo</span><br>
<br>
<br>
<span class="hoenzb">-- </span><br>
<br>
<span class="hoenzb">Inigo San Gil</span><br>
<span class="hoenzb"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=foIppL4AAAAJ&hl=en"
target="_blank">http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=foIppL4AAAAJ&hl=en</a></span><br>
<br>
<span class="hoenzb">_______________________________________________</span><br>
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Network</span><br>
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