[LTER-im] Fwd: Re: Publisher location requested for data set DOI
Margaret O'Brien
margaret.obrien at ucsb.edu
Thu Jan 19 15:47:39 PST 2017
Hi all -
as part of teasing apart of LTER and EDI-pasta, EDI is refining the way
it presents data citations. This has already started, of course. There
are a number of resources for data citations already, so we'll reference
as much material as needed.
So our advice to LTER sites:
Short term: don't reconfigure your EML to match the current citation
display, because that will change.
Mid term: be ready to provide input you may have on data citations.
Longer term: you will probably want to understand how the display
templates work, so you can structure your EML to take best advantage of
them.
Margaret and Duane
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Margaret O'Brien
Information Management
Marine Science Institute, UCSB
Santa Barbara, CA 93106
805-893-2071 (voice)
http://environmentaldatainitiative.org
http://sbc.marinebon.org
http://sbc.lternet.edu
On 1/19/17 2:04 PM, Margaret O'Brien wrote:
> resending. first msg seems to have wanted to go to im-at-lists, which
> is defunct.
> M
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: Re: [LTER-im] Publisher location requested for data set DOI
> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 11:37:02 -0800
> From: Margaret O'Brien <margaret.obrien at ucsb.edu>
> To: im at lists.lternet.edu
>
>
>
> Hi Wade, Hap, et al -
>
> 1. Re citation XSL:
> It looks to me like the current LTER template is using the
> creator/organizationName element in the citation's publisher, but Duane
> will have to confirm.
>
> EDI has added this to it's list of tasks already. Most likely, the
> solution will be something like the below.
>
> authors (before the pub date) are from these paths, in document order:
> /eml:eml/dataset/creator/individualName
>
> date:
> /eml:eml/dataset/pubDate
> *** this could be year-only, currently, LTER uses the entire contents of
> the field.
>
> title:
> /eml:eml/dataset/title
>
> publisher:
> publisher/organizationName
> *** a string could be appended (e.g., a repository name) but this needs
> to be discussed. right now, it appears that "; Long Term Ecological
> Research Network" is appended.
> *** the <publisher> element is optional, so logic to use the repository
> name in its absence might be appropriate.
>
> DOI:
> [system metadata]
>
>
> 2. Re requirements from publisher on dataset citations:
> I have not seen that from Elsevier yet (they are the publisher for ESA
> journals, correct?)
>
> The pressure to adopt a std could come from repositories or authors, but
> in reality, journals will probably still request whatever they want from
> authors. And unless data repositories are directly funded by publishers,
> they will probably not feel that they have to cover every possible
> format. You should know that other paper-data alignment topics have
> already popped up, e.g., intellectual right statements for data that are
> consistent with publisher's policies.
>
> I agree that "publication place" isn't particularly informative for a
> purely digital resource. It might be worth the scientist asking the
> journal what info they really were after. Possibly, they really want to
> know about the data's originating org - e.g. a physical LTER site,
> which does have a physical location -- but they are simply conflating
> that with "publication" since sometimes a data posting is a local URL,
> not via a repository.
>
> Margaret
>
> -----------
> Margaret O'Brien
> Information Management
> Marine Science Institute, UCSB
> Santa Barbara, CA 93106
> 805-893-2071 (voice)
> http://environmentaldatainitiative.org
> http://sbc.marinebon.org
> http://sbc.lternet.edu
>
> On 1/18/17 9:27 AM, Wade Sheldon wrote:
>> Hap,
>>
>> In this implementation (which is certainly valid), the
>> organizationName is essentially additional info for Linda's creator
>> element, like adding a position descriptor. We include a dedicated
>> creator element just for the project, which provides a more prominent
>> project attribution in external catalogs like KNB and DataONE.
>>
>> Wade
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/18/2017 12:19 PM, Hap Garritt wrote:
>>> Hi Gastil, Wade and Mark
>>>
>>> Thanks for your feedback, below is our EML snippet which I thought
>>> the Data Portal would have picked up. We have organization name under
>>> both creator and metadata provider.
>>>
>>> Mark, it would be great to know which other tags you are pulling
>>> organization name from for the citation. Perhaps there is also
>>> something in error in the snippet below?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Hap
>>>
>>>
>>> <creator id="pers-1">
>>> <organizationName>Plum Island Ecosystems LTER
>>> Program</organizationName>
>>> <individualName>
>>> <givenName>Linda</givenName>
>>> <surName>Deegan</surName>
>>> </individualName>
>>> <address>
>>> <deliveryPoint>Ecosystems Center</deliveryPoint>
>>> <deliveryPoint>MBL</deliveryPoint>
>>> <deliveryPoint>7 MBL St</deliveryPoint>
>>> <city>Woods Hole</city>
>>> <administrativeArea>MA</administrativeArea>
>>> <postalCode>02543</postalCode>
>>> <country>USA</country>
>>> </address>
>>> </creator>
>>> <metadataProvider>
>>> <organizationName>Plum Island Ecosystems LTER
>>> Program</organizationName>
>>> <address>
>>> <deliveryPoint>The Ecosystems Center</deliveryPoint>
>>> <deliveryPoint>Marine Biological Lab</deliveryPoint>
>>> <deliveryPoint>7 MBL St</deliveryPoint>
>>> <city>Woods Hole</city>
>>> <administrativeArea>MA</administrativeArea>
>>> <postalCode>02543</postalCode>
>>> <country>USA</country>
>>> </address>
>>> <phone phonetype="voice">(508) 289 7485</phone>
>>> <electronicMailAddress>pie_im at mbl.edu</electronicMailAddress>
>>> <onlineUrl>http://pie-lter.ecosystems.mbl.edu</onlineUrl>
>>> </metadataProvider>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>> *From: *"Gastil Gastil-Buhl" <gastil.gastil-buhl at ucsb.edu>
>>> *To: *"Hap Garritt" <hgarritt at mbl.edu>
>>> *Cc: *"Wade Sheldon" <sheldon at uga.edu>, "LTER IM" <im at lternet.edu>
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 18, 2017 11:30:05 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [LTER-im] Publisher location requested for data set DOI
>>>
>>> Hi Hap,
>>>
>>> We put the organization as the first of the creators along with the
>>> people creators (aka authors/owners). There are two kinds of
>>> creators, organizationName and individualName. The xslt that forms
>>> the HowToCite differentiates between individuals and organizations.
>>> See EML snippet below.
>>>
>>> Gastil
>>>
>>> <creator id="MCR">
>>> <organizationName>Moorea Coral Reef LTER</organizationName>
>>> <address>
>>> <deliveryPoint>Marine Science Institute</deliveryPoint>
>>> <deliveryPoint>University of California</deliveryPoint>
>>> <city>Santa Barbara</city>
>>> <administrativeArea>CA</administrativeArea>
>>> <postalCode>93106-6150</postalCode>
>>> <country>USA</country>
>>> </address>
>>> <onlineUrl>http://mcr.lternet.edu/</onlineUrl>
>>> </creator>
>>> <creator id="abrooks">
>>> <individualName>
>>> <givenName>Andrew</givenName>
>>> <surName>Brooks</surName>
>>> </individualName>
>>> <organizationName>Moorea Coral Reef LTER</organizationName>
>>> <positionName>Associated Investigator</positionName>
>>> <address>
>>> <deliveryPoint>Marine Science Institute</deliveryPoint>
>>> <deliveryPoint>University of California</deliveryPoint>
>>> <city>Santa Barbara</city>
>>> <administrativeArea>CA</administrativeArea>
>>> <postalCode>93106-6150</postalCode>
>>> <country>USA</country>
>>> </address>
>>> <phone phonetype="voice">805.893.7670</phone>
>>> <phone phonetype="fax">805.893.3777</phone>
>>> <electronicMailAddress>brooks at msi.ucsb.edu
>>> <mailto:brooks at msi.ucsb.edu></electronicMailAddress>
>>> </creator>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Hap Garritt <hgarritt at mbl.edu
>>> <mailto:hgarritt at mbl.edu>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Wade et al.
>>>
>>> We have not experienced a publisher location request for any PIE
>>> LTER data citations, certainly doesn't seem necessary when a DOI is
>>> included.
>>>
>>> On another note, I noticed that GCE and a few other LTER sites,
>>> AND, SBC and MCR have managed to get their LTER site name included in
>>> the Data Portal "How to cite this data package". What did you all do
>>> to your EML to get the citation to include your site or did you have
>>> to make a request to Mark/Duane to include it.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Hap
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From: *"Wade Sheldon" <sheldon at uga.edu <mailto:sheldon at uga.edu>>
>>> *To: *"LTER IM" <im at lternet.edu <mailto:im at lternet.edu>>
>>> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 18, 2017 9:59:17 AM
>>> *Subject: *[LTER-im] Publisher location requested for data set DOI
>>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> A GCE PI encountered the following issue when citing a data set
>>> in an ESA journal submission using the recommended LTER Data Portal
>>> citation format. Has anyone experienced this before? Publisher
>>> location seems irrelevant for a digital asset and defeats the purpose
>>> of a DOI, so my inclination is to push back and ask the publisher to
>>> justify this request. I suspect it's just about filling in a field in
>>> their citation system.
>>>
>>> Any recommendations?
>>>
>>> Wade Sheldon
>>> GCE-LTER
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>> Subject: how to cite GCE data sets
>>> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 07:46:36 -0600
>>> From: Pennings, Steven C <scpennin at Central.UH.EDU
>>> <mailto:scpennin at Central.UH.EDU>>
>>> To: 'Wade Sheldon' <sheldon at uga.edu
>>> <mailto:sheldon at uga.edu>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Wade,
>>> I cited a GCE data set as recommended
>>>
>>> Li, S. 2016. Experimental wrack disturbance at four
>>>
>>> times during the growing season. Georgia Coastal
>>>
>>> Ecosystems LTER Project, Long Term Ecological
>>>
>>> Research Network, University of Houston, ?????.
>>>
>>> https://doi.org/10.6073/pasta/0efb520e3772f0b97b560
>>>
>>> 325853ebf32
>>>
>>> And the journal asked for "publisher location" where the question
>>> marks are located. Should this be "Athens, Georgia, USA"?
>>>
>>> Also, if this becomes a common request (in this case from a
>>> journal of the Ecological Society of America") then I wonder if it
>>> would make sense to change our standard citation format that we
>>> provide.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> Steve Pennings
>>> John and Rebecca Moores Professor
>>> Department of Biology and Biochemistry
>>> University of Houston
>>> Houston TX 77204
>>> www.bchs.uh.edu/~steve <http://www.bchs.uh.edu/%7Esteve>
>>> <http://www.bchs.uh.edu/%7Esteve>
>>> http://penningslab.wordpress.com/
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Hap Garritt
>>> Plum Island Ecosystems (PIE) LTER
>>> Marine Biological Lab, Ecosystems Center
>>> 7 MBL Street
>>> Woods Hole, MA 02543
>>> 508-289-7485 <tel:%28508%29%20289-7485>
>>> hgarritt at mbl.edu <mailto:hgarritt at mbl.edu>
>>> http://ecosystems.mbl.edu
>>> http://pie-lter.ecosystems.mbl.edu
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hap Garritt
>>> Plum Island Ecosystems (PIE) LTER
>>> Marine Biological Lab, Ecosystems Center
>>> 7 MBL Street
>>> Woods Hole, MA 02543
>>> 508-289-7485
>>> hgarritt at mbl.edu
>>> http://ecosystems.mbl.edu
>>> http://pie-lter.ecosystems.mbl.edu
>>>
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