<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
<br>
Hi all,<br>
<br>
I am quite involved in the Information Manager ( IM ) led proposal
for a LTER Data Center; I started paying complete attention as
soon as I heard Saran Twombly was considering plans by the LTER
IMs on the next LNO Data Center (in lieu of a formal RFP). Since
Mike invited me to chime in ( thanks! ) I am taking the
opportunity to weight in on the IM led developments and also
express some alternate ideas here.<br>
<br>
In summary - The IM plans presented to Mike and the EB here, and
the ideas behind these plans reflect continuity. While
continuity may sound great for LTER, in my opinion it is also a
missed opportunity to make the LTER Data Center work efficiently
for the science and the LTER scientist. I back this by 10 years
of experience working closely with the LNO - I think the next Data
Center can do a better job.<br>
<br>
I have been pushing for a total revamp on how the Data Center and
IM group operates, but I am unsure whether I will succeed with my
push - not too optimistic. As the plans are, I am missing some
critical components. <br>
<br>
In essence, I would be bold about how the Data Center should
operate, and less concerned about maintaining the current status
quo. Some IMs on the LTER IM group feel like I do, but others may
disagree. <br>
<br>
I would enforce coordination where coordination can be attained:
Even though all LTERs are different, there are some common IT
aspects to all LTERs. It would no longer be an option to have 26
architectures (to be maintained) to do the same core functions, in
my view, we would have one common core for all LTERs and then each
LTER would maintain their custom needs. <br>
<br>
The effort saved using a common core infrastructure will be used
to serve LTER science needs -- we would place talent to work with
teams that do interesting science, perhaps favoring those
cross-site and synthesis projects, but taking into account any
LTER projects. <br>
<br>
I also propose a bit different organizational - I would greatly
simplify the diagrams shown in the materials that Mike enclosed.
I would go for a more traditional NSF structure; with a lead PI
and a team of other specialized talented individuals tasked with
accomplishing a set of goals that are proposed by the LTER
community (that is, you) and prioritized by the LTER community. I
would also formally change how LTER IM teams operate - IMs would
contribute to common infrastructure development and upkeep in
their areas of expertise - this would be required.<br>
<br>
Operational tweaks: I am a believer in transparency and openness.
We all work better when there is mutual trust, and one way to
nurture trust is to be as transparent and open as possible.
Simple changes - I would record all meetings, would open those for
participation. Also, we would have an open community process to
proposing Data Center tasks, void of tech-jargon. Also revising
the Data center priorities should be community weighted (think the
We the people White house initiative), and with the oversight of
the NSF (under cooperative agreement). However, the Data Center
group will have the complete independence on how to accomplish the
goals concerted by the community. This also contrast with the
proposed model, which operates more like it does now ( an even
more IM-heavy NISAC like group ).<br>
<br>
Technologically speaking I am proposing re-use of open source
products backed by a strong community. I would have a team that
re-uses and customizes the best synergistic modern products.
Contrast this with the proposed ideas: revive custom in-house
solutions which in my view are too expensive on the short and long
term and may not have served LTER science needs as expected. I
would revise the PASTA effort -- see how much is being used as it
is. I would re-visit the PASTA components of the current
implementation that do not serve the purpose of solving actual
LTER science needs, and divest time and efforts into practical
scientific projects. <br>
<br>
This is a summary, I have more detailed plans, but I wanted to
emphasize my differences with what you see in the PDF and PPT
docs. I am tempted on presenting these ideas on an alternative
proposal, but I am still hopeful that all IMs can agree in one
common plan. I have been successful in stopping some aspects of
the proposed IM plans that did not make sense to me, like having
an independent financial institution manage the grant, etc. In any
case, these will all unfold by the time the ASM comes ( a month?
), Saran would like to resolve ASAP, as whatever the next Data
Center is, will have to roll out ops by Spring next year.<br>
<br>
I am all ears about what you think the Data Center should be. I
know Diane's group was successful in splitting the communications
from data center ops, and I am sure Diane's group have some
specific results in mind. If you want to devote some time in a
phone conversation or email, all the better -- the Data Center
should work for you, and you have a voice. <br>
<br>
Depending on the outcome of the Data Center, I may want to present
a plan for my involvement involved with MCM-V in terms that
preserve what you want to do and the cost that you are looking for
(~$50k). This should come around September or October. <br>
<br>
cheers,<br>
Inigo<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 7/26/15 10:10 PM, Michael Gooseff wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:85974A45-0D88-498E-A2E6-B75BD86FC80C@colorado.edu"
type="cite">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=windows-1252">
Hi all,
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Please see the info below (and attached) in regards
to a new approach to a Network Data Center approach that is
coming from the Network IM community. Everyone is seeking a
state of Kumbaya, but no one is quite sure the attached plans
will achieve it.</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">(My email address replaced Diane’s on several
network lists, but not this one. My apologies for the late
delivery of info.) </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><u class="">Please let me know what you think about
this plan</u>. Peter is largely asking for the lead PIs to
convey the thoughts and reactions from their sites and I have a
teleconf set up with him for Thursday of this coming week to
discuss. <i class="">If you could get me any thoughts before
Thursday, I would appreciate it</i>. </div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Inigo - this includes you, of course!</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">Best,</div>
<div class="">Mike</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">P.S. - Bonus points to the first person who
understands the reference to Kumbaya in the message above!</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space;
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">
<div class="">-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-</div>
<div class="">Michael Gooseff, Associate Professor</div>
<div class="">Institute of Arctic and Alpine Research</div>
<div class="">Civil, Architectural, and Environmental
Engineering</div>
<div class="">University of Colorado</div>
<div class="">Boulder, CO 80309-0450</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class="">email: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michael.gooseff@colorado.edu" class="">michael.gooseff@colorado.edu</a></div>
<div class="">web: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://goosefflab.weebly.com/" class="">http://goosefflab.weebly.com</a> </div>
</div>
phone: 303.735.5333</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<div class=""><br class="">
</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
</div>
<div><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">Begin forwarded message:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class="">
<span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"
class=""><b class="">From:
</b></span><span style="font-family:
-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class="">Diane McKnight <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Diane.Mcknight@colorado.edu" class="">Diane.Mcknight@colorado.edu</a>><br
class="">
</span></div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class="">
<span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"
class=""><b class="">Subject:
</b></span><span style="font-family:
-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Fwd: [LTER-site-exec]
FW: LTER Data Center update</b><br class="">
</span></div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class="">
<span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"
class=""><b class="">Date:
</b></span><span style="font-family:
-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class="">July 25, 2015 at 12:38:41 PM MDT<br
class="">
</span></div>
<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px;
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class="">
<span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica
Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);"
class=""><b class="">To:
</b></span><span style="font-family:
-webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica,
sans-serif;" class="">"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mgooseff@engr.colostate.edu" class="">mgooseff@engr.colostate.edu</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mgooseff@engr.colostate.edu" class="">mgooseff@engr.colostate.edu</a>><br
class="">
</span></div>
<br class="">
<div class=""><span style="font-family: Helvetica;
font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant:
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color:
rgb(255, 255, 255); float: none; display: inline
!important;" class="">Mike, FYI. I don't know if you're
on the exec list yet or not. Cheers Diane</span><br
style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
<div class="moz-forward-container" style="font-family:
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans:
auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">
<br class="">
<br class="">
-------- Forwarded Message --------
<table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0"
cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
<tbody class="">
<tr class="">
<th class="" align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap"
valign="BASELINE">Subject:</th>
<td class="">[LTER-site-exec] FW: LTER Data Center
update</td>
</tr>
<tr class="">
<th class="" align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap"
valign="BASELINE">Date:</th>
<td class="">Sat, 25 Jul 2015 03:04:35 -0400</td>
</tr>
<tr class="">
<th class="" align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap"
valign="BASELINE">From:</th>
<td class="">Peter Groffman<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:groffmanp@caryinstitute.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;"><groffmanp@caryinstitute.org></a></td>
</tr>
<tr class="">
<th class="" align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap"
valign="BASELINE">To:</th>
<td class="">site-exec<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:site-exec@lternet.edu"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;"><site-exec@lternet.edu></a></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<br class="">
<br class="">
<div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Dear
LTER Site PI’s,</span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I
have not heard from too many of you about
activities for planning a new Data Center run by
the LTER IM community. <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">So I
am writing to nudge you to take a look at the note
below and the attached documents and let me know
if you have any thoughts, concerns, etc.</span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanks!</span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">PEter</span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></p>
<div class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">---------------------------------------------------------</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Peter
M. Groffman</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Cary
Institute of Ecosystem Studies</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">2801
Sharon Turnpike</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Millbrook,
NY 12545 USA</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Phone:
(845) 677-7600, ext. 128</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">FAX:
(845) 677-5976</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">E-mail: <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:groffmanp@caryinstitute.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="">groffmanp@caryinstitute.org</a></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">---------------------------------------------------------</span></div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
<span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span></p>
<div class="">
<div style="border-style: solid none none;
border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);
border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"
class="">
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size:
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"
class="">
<b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma,
sans-serif;" class=""><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Peter
Groffman [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:groffmanp@caryinstitute.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="">groffmanp@caryinstitute.org</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Sunday,
June 28, 2015 1:56 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:site-exec@lternet.edu"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="">site-exec@lternet.edu</a>'<br
class="">
<b class="">Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>LTER
Data Center update</span></div>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
</p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
Dear LTER Site PI’s,</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
</p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
As you know, a group of LTER Information Managers
(IM) has been having discussions with Saran Twombly
at NSF to determine if the new Data Center could be
run by the LTER IM community. As discussed at the
Science Council meeting this is a very exciting
development, but one that requires lots of
discussion and support from the sites. Margaret
O’Brien has been doing an excellent job of keeping
the Executive Board (EB) up to date and I have
attached a couple of draft documents that she
produced describing the current (and evolving)
thinking about the structure and function of the
center. </div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
</p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
Key current issues under discussion include:</div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.25in;
text-indent: -0.25in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-family: Symbol;" class=""><span
class="">·<span style="font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;
font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>Will
a split between fiscal and intellectual entities
introduce complications and/or double-overhead
costs?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.25in;
text-indent: -0.25in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-family: Symbol;" class=""><span
class="">·<span style="font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;
font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>The
composition of the governance committee, e.g.,
should this be voluntary/elected like the current IM
Committee, or should there be a regular rotation
like the EB?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.25in;
text-indent: -0.25in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-family: Symbol;" class=""><span
class="">·<span style="font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;
font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>What
structure might help even out the sites' engagement
and technical expertise in Information Management?<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.25in;
text-indent: -0.25in; font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-family: Symbol;" class=""><span
class="">·<span style="font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal;
font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal;
font-family: 'Times New Roman';" class=""> <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span>Should
the EB have a voting member on the governance
committee for more direct involvement than the
advising depicted in the draft diagram?</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
</p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
A more general question is if the EB, as LTER
leadership, should have 'a say' in the yes/no
decision (of whether we should go forward with a
proposal). In discussions at the EB meeting last
week, the answer was generally 'no'. But I said I
would reach out to the site PI's and urge you to
think about what is going on and to let me know what
you think positive or negative. <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
</p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
So, please take a look at the attached documents,
talk with your IM, and let me know what you think
about what is going on. NSF is keen to have network
buy-in for this effort; we can't move ahead without
broad (or maybe even full) support.<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
</p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
Thanks!</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
</p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
Peter</div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
</p>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">---------------------------------------------------------</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">Peter M. Groffman</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">Cary Institute of Ecosystem
Studies</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">2801 Sharon Turnpike</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">Millbrook, NY 12545 USA</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">Phone: (845) 677-7600, ext.
128</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">FAX: (845) 677-5976</span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">E-mail: <span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:groffmanp@caryinstitute.org"
style="color: purple; text-decoration:
underline;" class="">groffmanp@caryinstitute.org</a></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt;
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">
<span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial,
sans-serif;" class="">---------------------------------------------------------</span></div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt;
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">
</p>
</div>
<br class="">
</div>
<br style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal;
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto;
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
Inigo San Gil
+1 505 277 2625
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=foIppL4AAAAJ&hl=en">http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=foIppL4AAAAJ&hl=en</a></pre>
</body>
</html>