<div dir="ltr">Hi Don,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for weighing in.</div><div><br><div style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">This was about the header row matching the attributeName, not a best practice for attributeNames. I wholly agree the example attributeName I used in my example, "temp", is a very poor attribute name. I was not advocating anyone use "temp" instead of temperature, or the other examples you gave. My point (which I clearly was not clear about) was that the attributeName should match the column name in the csv file. This discussion was not about how to name a column. That would be a useful discussion on its own. This was just about distinguishing which EML element goes with which piece of metadata, the column name in the csv file (attributeName) or the descriptive label to use in human-read displays of the metadata (attributeLabel). Sorry my example suggested "temp" would be anything close to best practice. </div></div><div><br></div><div>I happen to be working with vocabularies today... yes it would be lovely someday to further convergence on a shared practice of how to name common measurements. But that's for another email thread. </div><div><br></div><div>Gastil</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Henshaw, Donald <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:don.henshaw@oregonstate.edu" target="_blank">don.henshaw@oregonstate.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I’m just weighing in here… I would argue that more descriptive attributeName’s should be a best practice. The attribute “temp” is a very poor attribute name.
I would suggest airtemp or airtemp_mean to be better. Particularly as the attributeName is the required field and will be what appears in the header line – this more descriptive name will reside with the output data and provide a better clue as to the data’s
meaning. Perhaps as we explore common vocabularies and we can offer a preferred attributeName for many of these common measurements.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Margaret O'Brien<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 13, 2018 9:39 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dan Bahauddin <<a href="mailto:danbaha@umn.edu" target="_blank">danbaha@umn.edu</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> IM committee <<a href="mailto:im@lternet.edu" target="_blank">im@lternet.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [LTER-im] Fwd: New informational check released for EDI<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">thanks Dan - and you are perfectly correct (and doing way better on your phone than I would be!)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The uses of attributeName and attributeLabel that you and Gastil described have been best-practice in the LTER network since ~2005 (the first edition of EML-BP), and were described that way in the EML docs from the very beginning. However,
until we had a checker there was now way to inform folks of whether or not they were adhering to BP. The checker project was started by the LTER IMC, and adopted by EDI along with other PASTA software. The current place for checker info, background, resources,
etc is <a href="https://github.com/EDIorg/ECC" target="_blank">https://github.com/EDIorg/ECC</a>.<wbr> (Side note: the IMC Wired working is still working out how to mark deprecated area of the IMC website.)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">the reason that attributeName is the one to be associated with the file itself is that attributeName is a required element, and attributeLabel is optional. So applications can rely on attributeName being there, but not on attributeLabel.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 9:04 AM Dan Bahauddin <<a href="mailto:danbaha@umn.edu" target="_blank">danbaha@umn.edu</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, label is just for human to get an idea of what is in the data field. It may not be the perfect word for it, but I think it is meant to conceptually be between the computer-readable "name" and a full definition. I don't see how it
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ORCID: 0000-0002-1693-8322<br>
Information Management<br>
Marine Science Institute, UCSB<br>
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805-893-2071 (voice)<br>
<a href="http://environmentaldatainitiative.org" target="_blank">http:// environmentaldatainitiative. org</a><br>
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From: <strong>EDI</strong> <<a href="mailto:info@environmentaldatainitiative.org" target="_blank">info@ environmentaldatainitiative. org</a>><br>
Date: Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:24 AM<br>
Subject: New informational check released for EDI data portal<br>
To: <<a href="mailto:margaret.obrien@ucsb.edu" target="_blank">margaret.obrien@ucsb.edu</a>><u></u><u></u></p>
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The EDI data portal has added a new informational check to the suite of data congruence checks it runs on every data package submitted. This check is information only and the community felt it was valuable, so we are releasing it outside the regular twice-yearly
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<span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#202020">Some programs (e.g., R, matlab) are able read in the first row (header row) of a data table and convert the names found there to variables in code. EML metadata contains additional information about
the attribute (table column) that is often not in the table header. EML Best Practices state that the header row of a table should match the attributeNames in metadata - this check displays header row names of the data table and the attribute names provided
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<span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#202020">This check displays the header row alongside attribute names for the user to compare their content visually. The check does not attempt to ascertain if the header and attributeNames match because
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<span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#202020">Checks returning warn or errors are released twice a year. A quorum of users approved releasing checks that are strictly informative as soon as they become available because informational checks
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<h2 style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:125%"><span style="font-size:16.5pt;line-height:125%;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#202020">To be released: 2018 July 11<u></u><u></u></span></h2>
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