<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi Gastil, Wade and Mark<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your feedback, below is our EML snippet which I thought the Data Portal would have picked up. We have organization name under both creator and metadata provider.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Mark, it would be great to know which other tags you are pulling organization name from for the citation. Perhaps there is also something in error in the snippet below?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks<br></div><div>Hap<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><creator id="pers-1"></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><organizationName>Plum Island Ecosystems LTER Program</organizationName></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><individualName></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><givenName>Linda</givenName></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><surName>Deegan</surName></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"></individualName></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><address></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><deliveryPoint>Ecosystems Center</deliveryPoint></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><deliveryPoint>MBL</deliveryPoint></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><deliveryPoint>7 MBL St</deliveryPoint></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><city>Woods Hole</city></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><administrativeArea>MA</administrativeArea></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><postalCode>02543</postalCode></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><country>USA</country></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"></address></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"></creator></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><metadataProvider></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><organizationName>Plum Island Ecosystems LTER Program</organizationName></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><address></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><deliveryPoint>The Ecosystems Center</deliveryPoint></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><deliveryPoint>Marine Biological Lab</deliveryPoint></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><deliveryPoint>7 MBL St</deliveryPoint></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><city>Woods Hole</city></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><administrativeArea>MA</administrativeArea></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><postalCode>02543</postalCode></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><country>USA</country></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"></address></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><phone phonetype="voice">(508) 289 7485</phone></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><electronicMailAddress>pie_im@mbl.edu</electronicMailAddress></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><onlineUrl>http://pie-lter.ecosystems.mbl.edu</onlineUrl></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"></metadataProvider></span></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Gastil Gastil-Buhl" <gastil.gastil-buhl@ucsb.edu><br><b>To: </b>"Hap Garritt" <hgarritt@mbl.edu><br><b>Cc: </b>"Wade Sheldon" <sheldon@uga.edu>, "LTER IM" <im@lternet.edu><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, January 18, 2017 11:30:05 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [LTER-im] Publisher location requested for data set DOI<br><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">Hi Hap,<div><br></div><div>We put the organization as the first of the creators along with the people creators (aka authors/owners). There are two kinds of creators, organizationName and individualName. The xslt that forms the HowToCite differentiates between individuals and organizations. See EML snippet below.</div><div><br></div><div>Gastil</div><div><br></div><div><div><creator id="MCR"></div><div><organizationName>Moorea Coral Reef LTER</organizationName></div><div><address></div><div><deliveryPoint>Marine Science Institute</deliveryPoint></div><div><deliveryPoint>University of California</deliveryPoint></div><div><city>Santa Barbara</city></div><div><administrativeArea>CA</administrativeArea></div><div><postalCode>93106-6150</postalCode></div><div><country>USA</country></div><div></address></div><div><onlineUrl><a href="http://mcr.lternet.edu/" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://mcr.lternet.edu/">http://mcr.lternet.edu/</a></onlineUrl></div><div></creator></div><div><creator id="abrooks"></div><div><individualName></div><div><givenName>Andrew</givenName></div><div><surName>Brooks</surName></div><div></individualName></div><div><organizationName>Moorea Coral Reef LTER</organizationName></div><div><positionName>Associated Investigator</positionName></div><div><address></div><div><deliveryPoint>Marine Science Institute</deliveryPoint></div><div><deliveryPoint>University of California</deliveryPoint></div><div><city>Santa Barbara</city></div><div><administrativeArea>CA</administrativeArea></div><div><postalCode>93106-6150</postalCode></div><div><country>USA</country></div><div></address></div><div><phone phonetype="voice">805.893.7670</phone></div><div><phone phonetype="fax">805.893.3777</phone></div><div><electronicMailAddress><a href="mailto:brooks@msi.ucsb.edu" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:brooks@msi.ucsb.edu">brooks@msi.ucsb.edu</a></electronicMailAddress></div><div></creator></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:10 AM, Hap Garritt <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hgarritt@mbl.edu" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:hgarritt@mbl.edu">hgarritt@mbl.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style="margin: 0 0 0 .8ex; border-left: 1px #ccc solid; padding-left: 1ex;"><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:#000000" data-mce-style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000;"><div>Hi Wade et al.<br></div><div><br></div><div>We have not experienced a publisher location request for any PIE LTER data citations, certainly doesn't seem necessary when a DOI is included.<br></div><div><br></div><div>On another note, I noticed that GCE and a few other LTER sites, AND, SBC and MCR have managed to get their LTER site name included in the Data Portal "How to cite this data package". What did you all do to your EML to get the citation to include your site or did you have to make a request to Mark/Duane to include it.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks<br></div><div>Hap<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><hr id="m_7007403999590805796zwchr"><div style="color:#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt" data-mce-style="color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Wade Sheldon" <<a href="mailto:sheldon@uga.edu" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:sheldon@uga.edu">sheldon@uga.edu</a>><br><b>To: </b>"LTER IM" <<a href="mailto:im@lternet.edu" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:im@lternet.edu">im@lternet.edu</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, January 18, 2017 9:59:17 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>[LTER-im] Publisher location requested for data set DOI<br><div><br></div>Hi folks,<br><div><br></div>A GCE PI encountered the following issue when citing a data set in an ESA journal submission using the recommended LTER Data Portal citation format. Has anyone experienced this before? Publisher location seems irrelevant for a digital asset and defeats the purpose of a DOI, so my inclination is to push back and ask the publisher to justify this request. I suspect it's just about filling in a field in their citation system.<br><div><br></div>Any recommendations?<br><div><br></div>Wade Sheldon<br>GCE-LTER<br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div>-------- Forwarded Message --------<br>Subject: how to cite GCE data sets<br>Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 07:46:36 -0600<br>From: Pennings, Steven C <<a href="mailto:scpennin@Central.UH.EDU" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:scpennin@Central.UH.EDU">scpennin@Central.UH.EDU</a>><br>To: 'Wade Sheldon' <<a href="mailto:sheldon@uga.edu" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:sheldon@uga.edu">sheldon@uga.edu</a>><br><div><br></div><br><div><br></div>Hi Wade,<br>I cited a GCE data set as recommended<br><div><br></div>Li, S. 2016. Experimental wrack disturbance at four<br><div><br></div>times during the growing season. Georgia Coastal<br><div><br></div>Ecosystems LTER Project, Long Term Ecological<br><div><br></div>Research Network, University of Houston, ?????.<br><div><br></div><a href="https://doi.org/10.6073/pasta/0efb520e3772f0b97b560" target="_blank" data-mce-href="https://doi.org/10.6073/pasta/0efb520e3772f0b97b560">https://doi.org/10.6073/pasta/0efb520e3772f0b97b560</a><br><div><br></div>325853ebf32<br><div><br></div>And the journal asked for "publisher location" where the question marks are located. Should this be "Athens, Georgia, USA"?<br><div><br></div>Also, if this becomes a common request (in this case from a journal of the Ecological Society of America") then I wonder if it would make sense to change our standard citation format that we provide.<br><div><br></div>Steve<br><div><br></div>Steve Pennings<br>John and Rebecca Moores Professor<br>Department of Biology and Biochemistry<br>University of Houston<br>Houston TX 77204<br><a href="http://www.bchs.uh.edu/~steve" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.bchs.uh.edu/~steve">www.bchs.uh.edu/~steve</a> <<a href="http://www.bchs.uh.edu/%7Esteve" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://www.bchs.uh.edu/%7Esteve">http://www.bchs.uh.edu/%7Esteve</a>><br><a href="http://penningslab.wordpress.com/" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://penningslab.wordpress.com/">http://penningslab.wordpress.com/</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>Long Term Ecological Research Network<br>im mailing list<br><a href="mailto:im@lternet.edu" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:im@lternet.edu">im@lternet.edu</a><span class="HOEnZb"><span class="HOEnZb"><span data-mce-style="color: #888888;" style="color: #888888;"><br></span></span></span><div><br></div></div><div><br><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div><span></span><div><div>Hap Garritt <br>Plum Island Ecosystems (PIE) LTER <br>Marine Biological Lab, Ecosystems Center<br>7 MBL Street <br>Woods Hole, MA 02543 <br><a href="tel:(508)%20289-7485" target="_blank" data-mce-href="tel:(508)%20289-7485">508-289-7485</a><br><a href="mailto:hgarritt@mbl.edu" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:hgarritt@mbl.edu">hgarritt@mbl.edu</a><br><a href="http://ecosystems.mbl.edu" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://ecosystems.mbl.edu">http://ecosystems.mbl.edu</a><br> <a href="http://pie-lter.ecosystems.mbl.edu" target="_blank" data-mce-href="http://pie-lter.ecosystems.mbl.edu">http://pie-lter.ecosystems.mbl.edu</a><br></div></div><span></span><br></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br> Long Term Ecological Research Network<br> im mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:im@lternet.edu" target="_blank" data-mce-href="mailto:im@lternet.edu">im@lternet.edu</a><br> <br> <br></blockquote></div><br></div></div><div><br><br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div><span name="x"></span><div><div>Hap Garritt <br>Plum Island Ecosystems (PIE) LTER <br>Marine Biological Lab, Ecosystems Center<br>7 MBL Street <br>Woods Hole, MA 02543 <br>508-289-7485<br>hgarritt@mbl.edu<br>http://ecosystems.mbl.edu<br> http://pie-lter.ecosystems.mbl.edu<br></div></div><span name="x"></span><br></div></div></body></html>