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    Hi Amber,<br>
    <br>
    Im glad you could reproduce results.  These seem to be either the
    same data record, or potentially worse, versions of the same or very
    similar record.  And they appear to be that way.  Do we want a
    person looking for the right version amongst all these records?  I
    can see the frustration coming from a mile away.<br>
    <br>
    In any case, I am not sure what is more confusing from the visitor's
    perspective, to have 27 equal versions, or 13 that differ slightly,
    but share a very similar title.<br>
    <br>
    Tough problem though -- I briefly saw on the list of providers
    (partners) are also groups who provide similar services (data
    cataloging and discovery). These are all providing similar if not
    the same records.  This federated idea (early 2000s) is great, but
    the thing is there are many federations competing for the same
    records.  <br>
    <br>
    Other issue raised over here recently, from the data provider
    perspective.  We may want to take down some of those data versions
    in an easy-no-fuss way.  <br>
    <br>
    So far the deletions process may involve one or all of the
    following: consensus, delegation, forwarding, doodling, stalling or
    other interesting dances.  <br>
    <br>
    Some of the LTER IMs would welcome an easy and direct way to delete
    any of the data records that we originate or we originated in the
    past, for whichever reason.<br>
      <br>
    One such reason is precisely seen forty two versions of a data
    package, and we would like to alleviate the dizziness that a visitor
    interested in our data may have while visiting your warehouse. But
    there may be other reasons.  Does it sound reasonable?  <br>
    <br>
    What do I mean 'delete' easily? not just an easy to use API, but
    also a 'delete' button next to each dataset that would grant the
    provider (partner?) the option of removing unwanted data.   <br>
    <br>
    Data are forever, right? Well, not bad data. Bad data are there
    temporarily, until we correct and amend it.  Yes, we need the delete
    option. And the Edit/Update option.  And we do not want to see those
    bad versions replicating like a cancer around the data federations.<br>
    <br>
    Can you [dataOne] keep bad data? I do not really have an opinion
    about it, but if there is a request NOT to offer it to the public,
    it sounds logical to me that request should be granted. <br>
    <br>
    But.. a DOI was issued? Yes, thank you. I am sure the DOI can
    resolve, for example, to a message explaining that 1) this bad data
    was taken out by a responsible data owner, and 2) here is a link to
    the better version of the original data and 3) if you must have it,
    login first to access it.   What, this is not the intended and
    envisioned use of DOIs?  I am aware of that, but let's be realistic,
    nothing is forever. Not diamonds, and certainly not DOIs.<br>
    <br>
    Cheers,<br>
    Inigo<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/17/2015 12:48 PM, Amber E Budden
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Inigo
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        <div>I repeated your search teams and also discovered 58 records
          with apparent duplicates.  However, looking through the first
          set (Rawlence et al) I see that they are actually different
          records, albeit with the same author list and repository.  The
          titles do differ.</div>
        <div>In the later records (from LTER), the records share the
          same title and authors but have different package numbers.</div>
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        <div>DataONE Search delivers results from a search against the
          metadata catalog hosted by our Coordinating Nodes.  The way
          that data are packaged (and appear within the search results)
          is determined by the individual Members Nodes. Although the
          records appear similar, they are distinct within the Member
          Node repository and as such appear as separate results.</div>
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        <div>Hope this helps</div>
        <div>Amber</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Amber
          E Budden <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:aebudden@dataone.unm.edu" target="_blank">aebudden@dataone.unm.edu</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">Hi Inigo
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              <div>Thanks for the feedback.  
                <div>Yes, we have been having a few timeouts with the
                  high volume of traffic going to the site and are
                  looking into this.  I will also forward your comments
                  about duplication.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Please do let us know of any thing else you
                  encounter.  We appreciate all feedback from users.</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Best</div>
                <div>Amber</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:26
                    AM, Inigo San Gil <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:isangil@lternet.edu">isangil@lternet.edu</a></a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                        Hi,<br>
                        <br>
                        Here is some feedback about the new and improved
                        dataOne search. <br>
                         <br>
                        I wish it was all positive.  It is not.  It is
                        feedback.<br>
                        <br>
                        --Lots of duplicates on that search app (58
                        results, all apparent duplicates. two filters
                        keys: biodiversity; creator(?) smith).   <br>
                        <br>
                        - No visible "support" link or report problem. 
                        No support?<br>
                        <br>
                        - And then, the site down.  Great.<br>
                        <br>
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                        Go metacat!<span><font color="#888888"><br>
                            <br>
                            Inigo</font></span>
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                            <div>On 11/17/2015 10:59 AM, Amber E Budden
                              wrote:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr"><b>Announcing DataONE
                                  Search: A New Way to Discover Data</b>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>DataONE is pleased to announce the
                                  release of DataONE Search, a web based
                                  application allowing users to
                                  seamlessly and efficiently discover
                                  the 168 thousand publicly accessible
                                  data packages* within the DataONE
                                  federated network of Member Nodes.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  DataONE Search allows users to search
                                  by keyword and refine by filters
                                  including: data attribute, Member
                                  Node, creator, year, identifier, taxa,
                                  location and whether a complete data
                                  package including both metadata and
                                  data are available for download. The
                                  geographic search interface in DataONE
                                  Search provides a convenient overview
                                  of the spatial distribution of data
                                  sets and allows users to zoom and pan
                                  to specific locations of interest.  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  Summaries of the number of data and
                                  metadata files, file formats and
                                  collection time periods are also made
                                  available through the new DataONE
                                  Search site. Such summaries provide a
                                  convenient overview of the range of
                                  data accessible through the DataONE
                                  federation from a number of different
                                  perspectives.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  DataONE Search is now the default
                                  software for search and discovery of
                                  data and metadata within DataONE. The
                                  software has been designed to
                                  facilitate rapid iteration and
                                  deployment of new features and to take
                                  full advantage of future capabilities
                                  offered by upcoming versions of the
                                  core cyberinfrastructure.  Notable
                                  among these is the upcoming provenance
                                  trace within search and discovery (see
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.dataone.org/webinars/provenance-and-dataone-facilitating-reproducible-science"
                                    target="_blank">https://www.dataone.org/webinars/provenance-and-dataone-facilitating-reproducible-science</a>
                                  for more information). ONEMercury will
                                  remain available to users via the
                                  direct URL <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://cn.dataone.org/onemercury/" target="_blank">https://cn.dataone.org/onemercury/</a>.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  To view demos on how to use DataONE
                                  Search, view our screencast tutorials
                                  at: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://www.dataone.org/screencast-tutorials"
                                    target="_blank">https://www.dataone.org/screencast-tutorials</a>.<br>
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                                    *This number excludes obsoleted
                                    records within the network that are
                                    publicly readable</font><br>
                                  <br>
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                                  <br>
                                  About DataONE:<br>
                                  DataONE enables universal access to
                                  data and also facilitates researchers
                                  in fulfilling their need for data
                                  management and in providing secure and
                                  permanent access to their data.
                                  DataONE offers the scientific
                                  community a suite of tools and
                                  training materials that cover all
                                  aspects of the data life cycle from
                                  data collection, to management,
                                  analysis and publication.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  <br>
                                  About MetacatUI:<br>
                                  DataONE Search is a customized
                                  implementation of the open source
                                  MetacatUI search application (<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://github.com/NCEAS/metacatui"
                                    target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/NCEAS/metacatui">https://github.com/NCEAS/metacatui</a></a>),

                                  developed at the National Center for
                                  Ecological Analysis and Synthesis, and
                                  usable by any DataONE Member Node that
                                  supports the DataONE query API.
                                  MetacatUI is a client-side web
                                  interface for querying Metacat servers
                                  and other servers that implement the
                                  DataONE REST API. Currently, it is
                                  used as the search interface for
                                  DataONE (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://search.dataone.org"
                                    target="_blank">https://search.dataone.org</a>),

                                  The Knowledge Network for
                                  Biocomplexity (<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://knb.ecoinformatics.org/#data"
                                    target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://knb.ecoinformatics.org/#data">https://knb.ecoinformatics.org/#data</a></a>),

                                  the Gulf of Alaska Data Portal (<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://goa.nceas.ucsb.edu/#data"
                                    target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://goa.nceas.ucsb.edu/#data">http://goa.nceas.ucsb.edu/#data</a></a>),

                                  GLEON (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="https://poseidon.limnology.wisc.edu/metacatui/"
                                    target="_blank">https://poseidon.limnology.wisc.edu/metacatui/</a>),

                                  and the Montana IoE Data Repository (<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://montanaioe.org/"
                                    target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://montanaioe.org/">http://montanaioe.org/</a></a>).<br
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style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Amber

                                      E Budden, PhD<br>
                                      Director for Community Engagement
                                      and Outreach<br>
                                      DataONE<br>
                                      University of New Mexico<br>
                                      1312 Basehart SE<br>
                                      Albuquerque, NM 87106
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              <div>Amber E Budden, PhD<br>
                Director, Community Engagement and Outreach<span
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                  DataONE<br>
                  University of New Mexico<br>
                  1312 Basehart SE<br>
                  Albuquerque, NM 87106
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          Director, Community Engagement and Outreach<br>
          DataONE<br>
          University of New Mexico<br>
          1312 Basehart SE<br>
          Albuquerque, NM 87106
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