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Hi Amber,<br>
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Im glad you could reproduce results. These seem to be either the
same data record, or potentially worse, versions of the same or very
similar record. And they appear to be that way. Do we want a
person looking for the right version amongst all these records? I
can see the frustration coming from a mile away.<br>
<br>
In any case, I am not sure what is more confusing from the visitor's
perspective, to have 27 equal versions, or 13 that differ slightly,
but share a very similar title.<br>
<br>
Tough problem though -- I briefly saw on the list of providers
(partners) are also groups who provide similar services (data
cataloging and discovery). These are all providing similar if not
the same records. This federated idea (early 2000s) is great, but
the thing is there are many federations competing for the same
records. <br>
<br>
Other issue raised over here recently, from the data provider
perspective. We may want to take down some of those data versions
in an easy-no-fuss way. <br>
<br>
So far the deletions process may involve one or all of the
following: consensus, delegation, forwarding, doodling, stalling or
other interesting dances. <br>
<br>
Some of the LTER IMs would welcome an easy and direct way to delete
any of the data records that we originate or we originated in the
past, for whichever reason.<br>
<br>
One such reason is precisely seen forty two versions of a data
package, and we would like to alleviate the dizziness that a visitor
interested in our data may have while visiting your warehouse. But
there may be other reasons. Does it sound reasonable? <br>
<br>
What do I mean 'delete' easily? not just an easy to use API, but
also a 'delete' button next to each dataset that would grant the
provider (partner?) the option of removing unwanted data. <br>
<br>
Data are forever, right? Well, not bad data. Bad data are there
temporarily, until we correct and amend it. Yes, we need the delete
option. And the Edit/Update option. And we do not want to see those
bad versions replicating like a cancer around the data federations.<br>
<br>
Can you [dataOne] keep bad data? I do not really have an opinion
about it, but if there is a request NOT to offer it to the public,
it sounds logical to me that request should be granted. <br>
<br>
But.. a DOI was issued? Yes, thank you. I am sure the DOI can
resolve, for example, to a message explaining that 1) this bad data
was taken out by a responsible data owner, and 2) here is a link to
the better version of the original data and 3) if you must have it,
login first to access it. What, this is not the intended and
envisioned use of DOIs? I am aware of that, but let's be realistic,
nothing is forever. Not diamonds, and certainly not DOIs.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Inigo<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/17/2015 12:48 PM, Amber E Budden
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Inigo
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<div>I repeated your search teams and also discovered 58 records
with apparent duplicates. However, looking through the first
set (Rawlence et al) I see that they are actually different
records, albeit with the same author list and repository. The
titles do differ.</div>
<div>In the later records (from LTER), the records share the
same title and authors but have different package numbers.</div>
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<div>DataONE Search delivers results from a search against the
metadata catalog hosted by our Coordinating Nodes. The way
that data are packaged (and appear within the search results)
is determined by the individual Members Nodes. Although the
records appear similar, they are distinct within the Member
Node repository and as such appear as separate results.</div>
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<div>Hope this helps</div>
<div>Amber</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Amber
E Budden <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:aebudden@dataone.unm.edu" target="_blank">aebudden@dataone.unm.edu</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Inigo
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<div>Thanks for the feedback.
<div>Yes, we have been having a few timeouts with the
high volume of traffic going to the site and are
looking into this. I will also forward your comments
about duplication.</div>
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<div>Please do let us know of any thing else you
encounter. We appreciate all feedback from users.</div>
<div><br>
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<div>Best</div>
<div>Amber</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 11:26
AM, Inigo San Gil <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:isangil@lternet.edu"
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Hi,<br>
<br>
Here is some feedback about the new and improved
dataOne search. <br>
<br>
I wish it was all positive. It is not. It is
feedback.<br>
<br>
--Lots of duplicates on that search app (58
results, all apparent duplicates. two filters
keys: biodiversity; creator(?) smith). <br>
<br>
- No visible "support" link or report problem.
No support?<br>
<br>
- And then, the site down. Great.<br>
<br>
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src="cid:part3.03000607.04000604@lternet.edu"
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Go metacat!<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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Inigo</font></span>
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<div>On 11/17/2015 10:59 AM, Amber E Budden
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<div dir="ltr"><b>Announcing DataONE
Search: A New Way to Discover Data</b>
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<div>DataONE is pleased to announce the
release of DataONE Search, a web based
application allowing users to
seamlessly and efficiently discover
the 168 thousand publicly accessible
data packages* within the DataONE
federated network of Member Nodes.<br>
<br>
DataONE Search allows users to search
by keyword and refine by filters
including: data attribute, Member
Node, creator, year, identifier, taxa,
location and whether a complete data
package including both metadata and
data are available for download. The
geographic search interface in DataONE
Search provides a convenient overview
of the spatial distribution of data
sets and allows users to zoom and pan
to specific locations of interest. <br>
<br>
Summaries of the number of data and
metadata files, file formats and
collection time periods are also made
available through the new DataONE
Search site. Such summaries provide a
convenient overview of the range of
data accessible through the DataONE
federation from a number of different
perspectives.<br>
<br>
DataONE Search is now the default
software for search and discovery of
data and metadata within DataONE. The
software has been designed to
facilitate rapid iteration and
deployment of new features and to take
full advantage of future capabilities
offered by upcoming versions of the
core cyberinfrastructure. Notable
among these is the upcoming provenance
trace within search and discovery (see
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.dataone.org/webinars/provenance-and-dataone-facilitating-reproducible-science"
target="_blank">https://www.dataone.org/webinars/provenance-and-dataone-facilitating-reproducible-science</a>
for more information). ONEMercury will
remain available to users via the
direct URL <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://cn.dataone.org/onemercury/" target="_blank">https://cn.dataone.org/onemercury/</a>.<br>
<br>
To view demos on how to use DataONE
Search, view our screencast tutorials
at: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://www.dataone.org/screencast-tutorials"
target="_blank">https://www.dataone.org/screencast-tutorials</a>.<br>
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*This number excludes obsoleted
records within the network that are
publicly readable</font><br>
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About DataONE:<br>
DataONE enables universal access to
data and also facilitates researchers
in fulfilling their need for data
management and in providing secure and
permanent access to their data.
DataONE offers the scientific
community a suite of tools and
training materials that cover all
aspects of the data life cycle from
data collection, to management,
analysis and publication.<br>
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About MetacatUI:<br>
DataONE Search is a customized
implementation of the open source
MetacatUI search application (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://github.com/NCEAS/metacatui"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/NCEAS/metacatui">https://github.com/NCEAS/metacatui</a></a>),
developed at the National Center for
Ecological Analysis and Synthesis, and
usable by any DataONE Member Node that
supports the DataONE query API.
MetacatUI is a client-side web
interface for querying Metacat servers
and other servers that implement the
DataONE REST API. Currently, it is
used as the search interface for
DataONE (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://search.dataone.org"
target="_blank">https://search.dataone.org</a>),
The Knowledge Network for
Biocomplexity (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://knb.ecoinformatics.org/#data"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://knb.ecoinformatics.org/#data">https://knb.ecoinformatics.org/#data</a></a>),
the Gulf of Alaska Data Portal (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://goa.nceas.ucsb.edu/#data"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://goa.nceas.ucsb.edu/#data">http://goa.nceas.ucsb.edu/#data</a></a>),
GLEON (<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://poseidon.limnology.wisc.edu/metacatui/"
target="_blank">https://poseidon.limnology.wisc.edu/metacatui/</a>),
and the Montana IoE Data Repository (<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://montanaioe.org/"
target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://montanaioe.org/">http://montanaioe.org/</a></a>).<br
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University of New Mexico<br>
1312 Basehart SE<br>
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Director, Community Engagement and Outreach<br>
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University of New Mexico<br>
1312 Basehart SE<br>
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