<div dir="ltr">LTER sites supply the data for the bibliography. What I don't know is whether individual web sites then access the LTER bibliography database dynamically to display their site bibliographies on their own web sites. It's possible -- and has advantages. I just don't know how many sites are doing it.<div><br></div><div>Jonathan -- I'm curious if you have any data on what percentage of your site visitors are coming from edu domains v other domains?<br><div>Marty</div><div> </div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Jonathan Walsh <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:walshjcaryinstitute@gmail.com" target="_blank">walshjcaryinstitute@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>With regard to the bibliography database, doesn't that database draw from the sites? It used to be that we would populate the LTER bibliography database by sending a delimited file of our publications list. This is fine with us because we have our own publication tracking here and we just export the delimited file.<br><br></div><div>It sounds like the goal is for very consistent website look and feel across all the LTER sites. Like you say, this could probably be accomplished while still allowing some individuality. In the case of BES --- an urban study --- the non-scientific public is a significant percentage of the viewers. And like you say, it would be helpful to sites with little www resources (and little need for public outreach) so a multi-site Drupal or Wordpress might be very helpful.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Marty Downs <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:downs@nceas.ucsb.edu" target="_blank">downs@nceas.ucsb.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>Dear Commcom--</div><div>I started the e-mail below in response to Nick's inquiry, but by the time I finished, thought it would be useful to share with the whole committee. As always, thoughts and feedback welcome. </div><div>Marty</div><div><br></div><div>Hi Nick, <br></div><div>Good catch, thanks!</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding a consistent web page design....A shared design (at least an optional one) is definitely under consideration as we grapple with the lternet redesign. I</div><div>I think there are a couple of considerations in trying to design (and sell) such a system:</div></div><div><br></div><div>1) Many sites are embedded in institutions that have their own design and branding considerations. Is our goal to accommodate those or to give sites ammunition to push back? It probably depends on how valuable that branding is to the site and vice versa. </div><div><br></div><div>2) Some sites have abundant resources (both skills and funds) to put into a web site. Others struggle to maintain a basic web site. We need a system that smooths the road for the latter, without tying the hands of the former.</div><div><br></div><div>3) I am unsure about how (and how much) much individual sites use the database connections. Are they drawing on the biblio database to maintain their publication lists? Is that something they value? What about personnelDB for staff lists? A common design would make database connections easier, but might give sites less control over how they display or how they include additional people on their personnel lists.</div><div><br></div><div>Here's what I'm thinking at the moment -- and I welcome your input on this. If you've been pushing on this for a while, then I'm sure you've bumped up against other counter arguments and I'd love to hear those so we can shape a program that works as well as possible for as many as possible.</div><div><br></div><div><div>It's possible to do a multi-site installation of either Drupal or Wordpress so that sites could start with the same basic template and modify it from there. That would offer a significant "nudge" toward consistency (and a significant head start for new and resource-poor sites) without tying the hands of resource-rich sites. </div><div><br></div><div>If we phased it in gradually, as sites are doing their own redesigns anyway, it could be managed without too much negative impact on the web administrators. (I don't think I can force a web-redesign, which is a major investment of site effort on my timetable.) If it were accompanied by a modest set of graphic and style standards, we could get a decent level of consistency without completely stifling creativity. </div></div><div><br></div><div>Just how I'm thinking about it at the moment. We have yet to get our web developer on board, but I'm starting on an RFP for the lternet redesign anyway. We'll need that whether we end up going with an in-house developer or an outside firm for the redesign.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks, </div><div>Marty</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Nicholas Oehm Jr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:oehmn@fiu.edu" target="_blank">oehmn@fiu.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>We are soft-launching the NCO web site at <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nco.lternet.edu_&d=AwMFaQ&c=1QsCMERiq7JOmEnKpsSyjg&r=-bfRrG46KwZqNcV_4ELblg&m=dBWC-X0KeldJ8_Y93r4hFo_p72X7I0O_Sz7oQumFWQA&s=DaKwuKKRbNgUx3wjjt0jkMsDDNEgM7nZUGpzI_4jeDM&e=" target="_blank">
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<div>It is not currently linked from the lternet site, but it is public. I'd appreciate your thoughts -- bearing in mind that my main purpose for this site is simply to inform the LTER community about the NCO's goals and objectives, how we intend to
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<div>This is a baby step -- with no web developer on board at this time, it does not reflect our intentions with respect to the main web site. It's the just-the-facts-ma'am, no-frills face of the NCO -- NOT of the Network. That remains at
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<div>When <a href="http://Lternet.edu" target="_blank">Lternet.edu</a> and <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__Intranet2.lternet.edu&d=AwMFaQ&c=1QsCMERiq7JOmEnKpsSyjg&r=-bfRrG46KwZqNcV_4ELblg&m=dBWC-X0KeldJ8_Y93r4hFo_p72X7I0O_Sz7oQumFWQA&s=7q6BY4O04yGprVkbQHU6zEhGS3FyLBjCGV5D1ImM2F8&e=" target="_blank">
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<div>There is a great deal more we could do to liven the site up and I'll take that on over time. For now, I would very much appreciate your thoughts on content -- are there mis-steps in tone or content? Blind spots? What am I missing that is important
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