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Thanks for this new version. It reads very well. </div>
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I have left some comments on the Box doc. I suggested some text to distinguish between positive and negative feedback.</div>
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Tricky to add minor suggestions to the PDF. So here goes:</div>
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Section IV - Knowledge gaps</div>
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Line 221: Insert the importance of the distinction bn +ve and -ve feedbacks. in this section. It is important to clarify that we need to understand when perturbations (e.g. anthropogenic) are damped vs. amplified. In climate science, +ve feedbacks due to change
in albedo have been important to communicate. I think we need to state that we have a knowledge gap when it comes to assessing when these two types of feedback are at play. For example, in McCann et al. (2020) Ecology Letters we show when nutrients (runoff
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Line 244: Do you mean accompanying EF measures that are taken at the same time and location and the biodiversity measures? GEO BON is publishing essential ecosystem variables but there is a need to statistically assess the co-variation with layers of (functional)
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Line 347: There some advances linking functional trait variation to functioning, both at the local scale (Norberg et al; Enquist et al) and biogeographic scales (Violle et al 2014 PNAS)<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">.</span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Line 387, Challenge 6: You might cite Miller et al. 2012</span></div>
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<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3328856/" id="LPlnk143687">https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3328856/</a> </span></div>
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A specific example that could be used as an example is for seagrasses and the need to consider feedbacks in their management. Maxwell et al. <a href="https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27581168/" id="LPlnk" style="font-family: Calibri, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27581168/</a></div>
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If PRSB doesn't take this, I think Oikos Forum would be a great venue. Note, I am no longer EIC at Oikos, so there would not be a conflict of interest.</div>
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Line 425: Gonzalez et al. 2016 (Ecology) we quantified these spatial biases. </div>
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Line 430: cite Runge et al. 2019 Nat. Comms. <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-10105-3" id="LPlnk">https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-10105-3</a></div>
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I hope these suggestions are useful.</div>
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Cheers,</div>
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<div class="PlainText"><span style="font-size:8pt">Gonzalez, A., Germain, R., Srivastava, D. et al. (2020) Scaling$B!>(Bup biodiversity$B!>(Becosystem functioning research.
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 10, 2021 1:36 PM<br>
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<b>Cc:</b> William Cheung <w.cheung@oceans.ubc.ca>; bioprod@lternet.edu <bioprod@lternet.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [LTER-BioProd] Biodiversity Agenda Paper - action required!</font>
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<div class="">I hope you and yours are doing all right. I$B!G(Bm writing with the "Agenda paper", ready to submit and just need your final $B!F(BOK$B!G(B or any minor feedback!</div>
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<div class="">As you know, this has proceeded in fits and starts over the last few years. I thought we were done in summer 2019, but a few good points were raised around that time that required a bit more work on my part, and here we are. Last summer (2020)
I presented this at ESA and around that time, got good and careful comments and contributions on the MS from our core writing team (Forest, Akira, Laura, Andy G). I have incorporated all those comments, and have also updated the manuscript a little bit since
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<div class="">I hope you like it! I$B!G(Bd like to submit it by the end of Feb to Proceedings of the Royal Society. Right now I$B!G(Bm simply asking for your $B!F(Bok$B!G(B. If there are revisions needed that can wait till we get reviews, I will happily take them and file them
for that time; if things need to be done before we submit, I will do my best!. The ms hasn$B!G(Bt changed much since summer so if your read it then you have a good idea of where it is. If you haven$B!G(Bt read it in a few years, I suggest you do take a quick look. </div>
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<div class="">Finally, you will see that William Cheung has joined us as a co-author and on this email. William is a colleague at UBC and has been a contributor and co-author on the IBPES modelling scenarios and the scenarios chapter to which we refer in this
paper, so I$B!G(Bm very grateful he has joined us and provided his comments on the ms as well. </div>
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<div class="">1. Please confirm that you$B!G(Bre ok for me to submit this to PRSB</div>
<div class="">2. Please send me your address or add it in a comment in the ms.</div>
<div class="">3. OPTIONAL: help with figures if you are inspired</div>
<div class="">4. OPTIONAL: minor edits for pre-submission, major edits for post-review</div>
<div class="">5. OPTIONAL: Box 3 needs a little work, I think, and I wonder if one of you who originally drafted it could finalize it?</div>
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<div class="">A few loose ends on the figures remain to be tied up, which I will do while you review. If you have time AND see opportunities to improve figures, I welcome that help at this stage! (There were some issues I couldn$B!G(Bt resolve with the figures we
had before, but if you miss them and would like help revise, we can discuss how to do that; it is possible).</div>
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