<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">Dear Mary et al,<div><br></div><div>Thanks so much for this, I think it's really cool.</div><div><br></div><div>I took some time to think carefully about the intro section on positive vs. negative feedback and I just have a few comments about that. For the figure that shows unidirectional effects and positive vs. negative feedbacks (Figure 2): I believe the negative feedback loop should be negative in one arrow and positive in the other arrow in order to be a negative/stabilizing feedback. For example, for predator/prey relations, it could be read as: an increase in prey leads to an increase in predators, but an increase in predators leads to a decrease in prey. This stabilizes both populations. Another way of thinking about it is that a negative/negative actually also leads to a runaway (positive) feedback: <a href="http://gerrymarten.com/human-ecology/chapter02.html">http://gerrymarten.com/human-ecology/chapter02.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>I was also thinking about examples of negative feedbacks that are particularly informative for this paper. It seems to me that a series of negative feedbacks regulate the saturating relationship between biodiversity and productivity: for example, when there is more niche space there will be more species coexisting, as there are more species in the system there will be a reduction in the amount of niche space. This would be a negative/stabilizing feedback...</div><div><br></div><div>Anyway, I just wanted to offer some conceptual ideas for now. I hope this is useful.</div><div><br></div><div>Sasha</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:02 AM LOREAU Michel <<a href="mailto:Michel.LOREAU@sete.cnrs.fr">Michel.LOREAU@sete.cnrs.fr</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Sorry for the second email: Here is the file with a revised author list, and to let you know that I also put the PDF in our google drive.</div>
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<div>I hope you are well, and off to a great summer. I’m checking with an update of (hopefully) progress on the Agenda paper (attached). This progress is motivated by me giving a talk at a Biodiversity/Climate Change meeting in Switzerland this coming
Thursday. Some of us will be there (Michel, Forest, Jane, Andy H…) and the Agenda paper leaders felt this would be a good time to present this to that audience. Many of the attendees will include people actively involved in the recent IPBES reports. </div>
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<div>So, two action items for you:</div>
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<div>1. OPTIONAL: FOR THE TALK NEXT THURSDAY JULY 4: If you have time and would like to comment on this before I present the highlights next Thursday, please do! I apologize for the short notice on this, and I also apologize for sending it on a Friday.
If you have any major reservations with me presenting any part of this, let me know. I would like to acknowledge everyone in this group as a co-author on this part of my talk, and if you would prefer that I not do that (or not include your name at this stage)
let me know. <b>Ideally, before Tuesday July 2nd</b>. <b>If I don’t hear from you I’ll assume it’s ok to present this with you included as a contributor.</b></div>
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<div>2. FOR THE MANUSCRIPT: Please read and comment on this version of the manuscript. I’d like to know how close this could be to submittable. I expect another round to the group for ‘final’ feedback after this round, but let me know if I’m off base.
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<div>- If you would like to work on text or figures, I would welcome the help and please let me know, I will send a word doc and we can discuss. </div>
<div>- please help me with references and examples! You all know some part of the literature better than I do! Highlighted refs are ones that I don’t have but were suggested, so please fill those in too.</div>
<div>- I still (as always) need major help with figures so if you are inspired, please help here!</div>
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<div><b>Deadline for comments on this draft: July 12th</b>. This is very negotiable. After that I will revise and send back out, at that would be a time for finessing wording, etc (we don’t all have to do this, but a few helpers here would
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<div>Still need to make a final call on where to submit. We’re just over 3000 words now and this seems like a good length to me, but I welcome in put on that too.</div>
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